Nic Barlage is the CEO of the Cleveland Cavaliers but he was denied all 172 of his first job applications out of college. Joe and Nic discuss the importance of defining your passion and the key to building talent is preparing them to leave. If this episode was a basketball game, it would be a buzzer shot three pointer.

Patient Purpose with Paul Spiers
Paul Spiers is the Founder of The New P&L Brand Purpose Institute focused on helping leaders rediscover their purpose. Paul brings his wisdom across the